Perles Irrational Polytope (in polymake)

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Lai
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Perles Irrational Polytope (in polymake)

Postby Lai » 11 Mar 2020, 20:07

Hello,

I have the following naive question.

The vertices of perles 8-dimensional irrational polytope are expressed in terms of the square root of 5, denoted r5.

For example one coordinate of one vertex is " -1/2 + 1/2r5".

I am not fully certain whether this expression is -1/2 + (1/2)r5 or -1/2 + 1/(2r5) , although I suspect the latter.

Thanks

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Re: Perles Irrational Polytope (in polymake)

Postby gawrilow » 11 Mar 2020, 21:18

I am not fully certain whether this expression is -1/2 + (1/2)r5 or -1/2 + 1/(2r5) , although I suspect the latter.
No, the former. The quadratic extension numbers are always normalized, having square roots in the numerator.

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Re: Perles Irrational Polytope (in polymake)

Postby Lai » 11 Mar 2020, 22:15

I see, thanks.

Also, is it possible to compute the convex hull of irrational vectors (say with coordinates in a quadratic extension), and then compute the facets of the resulting polytope?

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Re: Perles Irrational Polytope (in polymake)

Postby gawrilow » 11 Mar 2020, 22:20

Yes, it's possible:

$P=new Polytope<QuadraticExtension>(POINTS=>$matrix);
print $P->FACETS;

Just keep in mind that the support for quadratic extensions is currently rather rudimentary: only one distinct square root is allowed in all coordinates, and it has to be a root of a rational number, no iterated roots.

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Re: Perles Irrational Polytope (in polymake)

Postby Lai » 12 Mar 2020, 00:02

Great, thanks!


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